1). Currently have a channel that makes roughly $1500-$1800 (down from its peak of just shy of $3000) while uploading once a month. I’ve been able to ‘automate’ processes to improve how quickly I can edit, but it still takes a lot of time and juggling it + another job is a struggle.
2). Biggest frustration isn’t really with YouTube, more with me. Am pretty much a one-hit wonder right now, not being able to replicate my success in March and interest in that idea gradually dying down over time. Spending weeks on an idea you hope is a winner, and instead you don’t make any extra money on the channel that month - it’s tough!
jiggy for presidentCreator
Hey Luke,
First off - $1,500-$1,800/month uploading once a month is incredible. Most creators never get there. So props to you.
But I totally get the frustration. You've proven you can win, but you can't replicate it. That's actually more frustrating than never winning at all.
Here's what I'm hearing:
- You had a hit in March that peaked at $3K/month
- You've been chasing that high ever since
- You're spending weeks on ideas hoping they'll be "the one"
- But the views (and revenue) keep declining
This is actually a common trap for successful creators. You're trying to recreate the magic instead of understanding WHY it worked in the first place.
Quick questions:
1. What was the March video about? (topic/format)
2. What are you making now that's different?
3. When you say "interest in that idea is dying down" - do you mean the audience moved on, or YouTube stopped pushing it?
Because here's what most creators miss: Sometimes it's not that the niche is dying - it's that you need to find the next angle within that niche.
If you cracked the code once, you can do it again. But you need to reverse-engineer what made that video work, then find adjacent topics with the same demand.
I went through something similar. I had a channel doing $400/month, pivoted niches, and hit $2,000/month in the first month with a partner. The difference wasn't effort - it was strategy.
Curious to hear more about that March video. There's gold in there.
Once you understand the pattern, you can replicate it on demand. That's when YouTube becomes predictable instead of a gamble.
- Marvens
P.S. - The fact that you're making $1,500+/month means you're already ahead of 99% of creators. The next level isn't working harder - it's working smarter. I'm putting together something that might help with exactly this. I'll keep you posted.
xor4lyfe77@gmail.com
I started a channel, hit 900 views on the first video, 150 on second, and saw slight success. Editing feels like a chore though, I love making the videos but editing them is such a hassle between my other job and other activities/responsibilities. I want to continue but unsure if its alright to take long gaps (weeks) between uploading short 5-6 minutes videos.
jiggy for presidentCreator
Editing can def feel like a chore - I've been there. With my faceless channel, I outsourced editing entirely because it was my biggest bottleneck.
Quick question: What do you like most about the process? The scripting? Filming? The creative side?
I ask because if editing is the only thing slowing you down, there's a clear path forward.
Here's the thing about gaps: YouTube's algorithm rewards consistency because it shows you're committed. But more importantly - if you take weeks off, you lose momentum and it's harder to get back into it. Momentum on YouTube is an under-rated strategy.
That said, posting every 2 weeks with a really good video is better than burning out trying to post weekly.
I'd recommend finding a good video editor - even at $100-200/video. I know that sounds like a lot when you're just starting, but here's the math:
If editing takes you 8 hours and you make $25/hour at your job, that's $200 of your time anyway. Plus, a good editor can help you make longer, better videos that actually get views.
This is exactly what I did and we've been able to put out 100+ videos in a few months. The ROI is insane once you find the right person.
By the way - what niche are you in? And what made your first video hit 900 views? That's actually a solid start.
- Marvens
xor4lyfe77@gmail.com
I never thought about outsourcing the editing for that much, id have to really think on it and see if I land this promotion im going for lol. Also I just made a video talking about a controversial figure in hip hop, so I guess that would be my niche. Also about the every 2 weeks thing is interesting, I thought I'd have to post every week for YT to pickup on that "consistency", I think I'll give that 2 week thing a try. Oh and one last thing, the part I enjoy about YouTube most is just going off script and talking about the first thing that comes to mind, maybe more suited for streaming but I enjoy doing it for YouTube idk lol
YottomBottoms
1. I stopped making Youtube videos on my main channel (https://www.youtube.com/@yottombottom) about 4 months ago, the longest ive ever stepped away from my channel. Prior to this, I spent nearly 4 years uploading a video at least every 2 weeks. (500+ vids) I have accumulated over 10k subscribers but ive never had that ''one'' popular video. Most of those subscribers came from shorts. it has been a slow process. On average, my views are 50-200 views which has been the case for a long time.
2. I never broke out of the shell, I was never monetized, my viewer count stayed low, I was banking that overtime one of those videos would blow up. but it never happened. I'd say I am an above average video editor and prettygood at thumbnails. and I have a good humor. So What is it? my thumbnails? my titles? me? I spent time and money in this. Each video I've ever done my mindset was always "THIS IS THE ONE" for years. and that one never came. Hours and Hours of just me, sitting at my low-end laptop editing. and dont get me wrong I loved the process, I love editing/Being a youtuber. But seeing no PROGRESS. that slowly ate at me until nothing was left. I'm now the big old 18 and a upcoming Video editor on Upwork. as of that, I am satisfied. I do plan on picking my channel back up one day, I am just prioritizing what matters now, I can't just sit at my computer for hours with no progress, hoping for Youtube to give me a chance like I used to, I need some type of income. I'll come back when i have some money, passion and knowledge of this algorithm, and perhaps a different genre. I'll try hiring a professional to guide me
But at times i sit and wonder what exactly i did wrong with it.
jiggy for presidentCreator
What's up Yottom.
I understand exactly where you've been. When I was creating League of Legends videos, I never blew up despite having great content and thumbnails. I was doing the same thing you did - hoping one would hit. But here's what I learned: YouTube doesn't reward hope. It rewards strategy.
I just took a look at your YouTube channel and I'll tell you right now - you have the exact ethic and drive to succeed on YouTube. With that being said, I can see exactly why you haven't broken through yet, and the good news is it's fixable.
Your video lengths are too short for gaming, your topic selection is weak, and some of your thumbnails have your face in it but no webcam - this confuses the viewer to click on a video with a face and there is no face when they watch.
When you make videos, ask yourself this: If my video pops up next to iBerleezy's, which one will they click on? Which one will they watch longer and why?
This isn't to discourage you but to instead help you find your edge. These are the metrics YouTube is thinking about when recommending channels.
Take a look at this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fMkyL1q0eU
A few weeks ago they had less subscribers than you, but they had an extremely unique idea that no one else had done that also was desirable to the viewer.
There is a limited amount of attention on YouTube and you're competing with everyone. When your thumbnail pops up on their home page they also have many other options such as Mr. Beast Gaming and CaseOh.
Here's your homework: Find 5 gaming channels with 10k-50k subs that are growing fast. Watch their last 10 videos. Ask yourself:
- What topics are they covering that I'm not?
- How long are their videos?
- What's their hook in the first 30 seconds?
Then when you post a video that bangs, you double down on that format.
P.S. - I'm putting together a framework that helps creators like you identify the exact niche and video format that will work for your channel. It's the same process I used to go from $400/month to $2,000/month in one pivot. I'll send it your way when it's ready.
I've been making videos for 4 years with little to no success. I ran into you through Trick2g and loved your style. When I started taking content seriously, I downloaded your MoGRT and tried and tried for around a year. Writing notes on how to get better, the formula on Getting Views x Keeping Views. Watching other content creators. I always felt like my rank was what stopped me so I then quit to try to get to Master's.
Then felt like no, that was a big excuse so returned to editing..
This is my channel. https://www.youtube.com/@BlueFireDudester
Currently I have gotten inspiration from the OW youtuber frogger. I think League and OW are dead games but if a content creator of a game I don't even like captivated me, maybe there is something special there.
I am hit or miss but I want to be consistent. My mentality is that YT is a formula.
Getting Views x Keeping Views
Getting Views - Get a lot of reasons to click and get strong ones
Keeping Views - Fight off the reasons why people would click off (No Movement, Predictability, Confusion, Straying from the purpose)
I constantly study and even during my hiatus I tried to figure out the formula..
I need your help Jiggy. Your videos helped me back when you edited for Trick. I was in such a dark place in my life then and I thank you for giving me something to look forward to. This is my dream.
jiggy for presidentCreator
Yo what's up man, it's a blast from the past to even hear the name Trick2G.
First off - thank you for sharing that. I know how much courage it takes to open up about being in a dark place. I'm genuinely glad my videos gave you something to look forward to back then.
Now here's what's wild: What if I told you I was in the same exact scenario? And I mean THE EXACT SAME SCENARIO.
I was streaming League of Legends then posting the absolute best League of Legends videos I possibly could - but instead of Brand, I played Yorick.
I posted constantly thinking if I gave it my all, I would succeed... But I didn't get far. I loved Frogger actually lmao (Anivia is the champion that got me to Diamond for the first time). People loved my content but I wasn't getting nearly the amount of views I wanted.
So I did the exact same thing you did: I streamed every single day - a journey to Masters series for 40 days straight, 3-6 hours a day. I VOD reviewed, got to Diamond 3... Then I decided to quit. I figured it wasn't worth giving my life for a video game if I just couldn't get "there".
Here's what I learned: I was doomed from the start.
Not because I wasn't good enough. Not because my editing wasn't fire. But because I picked the wrong vehicle.
If you want to see your potential on YouTube, the best way is to see how your competitors are doing. Even the number 1 Yorick wasn't getting the views I would want.
After spending 3 months analyzing this, I've come to the conclusion: If you look at the top League of Legends creators, they're either making the best content on the platform through raw entertainment and strategy, or through high-level gameplay (Challenger+).
You have to see what the other competitors are doing in order to gauge what's working well on YouTube.
I just looked at your channel. Here's what I see:
You have the editing skills. You have the drive. You have the formula (Getting Views x Keeping Views is solid).
But you're fighting an uphill battle in a saturated niche where the top players are either Challenger-level or have massive production teams.
Here's my honest take: You have two paths.
Path 1: Stay in League/OW and find a micro-angle that's underserved. (This is hard but possible)
Path 2: Take your editing skills and formula to a different gaming niche where the competition is weaker and the demand is higher.
I went Path 2. I pivoted from League content to faceless YouTube in a completely different niche. First month with a partner: $2,000. The skills transferred. The vehicle changed everything.
You said "This is my dream." I believe you. But dreams need the right vehicle.
I'm putting together a framework that helps creators like you identify profitable niches and generate endless video ideas - the exact system I used to pivot from struggling League creator to profitable YouTube strategist.
Want me to send it your way when it's ready? I think it could help you find the right vehicle for your skills.
You've got the work ethic. You've got the skills. You just need the right direction.
Let me know what you think.
- Marvens (Jiggy)
P.S. - The fact that you kept going for 4 years shows you have what it takes. Most people quit after 6 months. You're closer than you think - you just need to redirect that energy into the right niche.
sghsfdg@gmail.com
With your advice and some others, I think I'm going to let being a league youtuber go.
I thought I could surpass other content creators if I tried hard enough but League and Gaming Montage channels are dead. As you said to other creators, you are competing with all of YouTube. We are competing with Mr. Beast. I just watched a YT Video and someone said that Gaming Montage channels are dead. As editors and content is evolving, story based content seems to be what keeps people entertained. Do you feel that is correct?
It's crazy we have blazed the same path. Yorick is dope but I hate Anivia so much..
You are absolutely right about how the top creators are doing but it seems like even most of the challengers/high elo players aren't doing well either.
I think the reason why people don't want to watch League is because MOBA's inherently have no story to create. The successful creators that I have seen are the ones that have great ideas/stories. For some reason there are only 3 outliers, Tyler1, theBausffs, RatIRL.
"This build is broken!!1!"
"DoubleLift meets Rank 1 Leblanc!"
The outliers can get away with that..
I did my homework as you said to Jiggy!
"Climbing to Master with every character, if I lose I never use them again"
"If I lose, I cosplay this character"
"Interviewing League Players and Guessing their main"
These are the types of videos/ideas that are successful in the League space.
Games like Minecraft, Rust, DayZ allows for players to be free enough to create their own challenges, stories, etc.
I'm going to find another niche and create actual structured content. I feel like League gets really repetitive for the viewer. Do you believe the same or is there a different reason you found success elsewhere?
Thank you for believing in me, I believe in you too.
Send me what you have cooking when it is ready my man. :P
drolafix@gmail.com
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Here's that case study Drola: https://youtu.be/TyrOeVyBrJY
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1). Currently have a channel that makes roughly $1500-$1800 (down from its peak of just shy of $3000) while uploading once a month. I’ve been able to ‘automate’ processes to improve how quickly I can edit, but it still takes a lot of time and juggling it + another job is a struggle. 2). Biggest frustration isn’t really with YouTube, more with me. Am pretty much a one-hit wonder right now, not being able to replicate my success in March and interest in that idea gradually dying down over time. Spending weeks on an idea you hope is a winner, and instead you don’t make any extra money on the channel that month - it’s tough!
Hey Luke, First off - $1,500-$1,800/month uploading once a month is incredible. Most creators never get there. So props to you. But I totally get the frustration. You've proven you can win, but you can't replicate it. That's actually more frustrating than never winning at all. Here's what I'm hearing: - You had a hit in March that peaked at $3K/month - You've been chasing that high ever since - You're spending weeks on ideas hoping they'll be "the one" - But the views (and revenue) keep declining This is actually a common trap for successful creators. You're trying to recreate the magic instead of understanding WHY it worked in the first place. Quick questions: 1. What was the March video about? (topic/format) 2. What are you making now that's different? 3. When you say "interest in that idea is dying down" - do you mean the audience moved on, or YouTube stopped pushing it? Because here's what most creators miss: Sometimes it's not that the niche is dying - it's that you need to find the next angle within that niche. If you cracked the code once, you can do it again. But you need to reverse-engineer what made that video work, then find adjacent topics with the same demand. I went through something similar. I had a channel doing $400/month, pivoted niches, and hit $2,000/month in the first month with a partner. The difference wasn't effort - it was strategy. Curious to hear more about that March video. There's gold in there. Once you understand the pattern, you can replicate it on demand. That's when YouTube becomes predictable instead of a gamble. - Marvens P.S. - The fact that you're making $1,500+/month means you're already ahead of 99% of creators. The next level isn't working harder - it's working smarter. I'm putting together something that might help with exactly this. I'll keep you posted.
I started a channel, hit 900 views on the first video, 150 on second, and saw slight success. Editing feels like a chore though, I love making the videos but editing them is such a hassle between my other job and other activities/responsibilities. I want to continue but unsure if its alright to take long gaps (weeks) between uploading short 5-6 minutes videos.
Editing can def feel like a chore - I've been there. With my faceless channel, I outsourced editing entirely because it was my biggest bottleneck. Quick question: What do you like most about the process? The scripting? Filming? The creative side? I ask because if editing is the only thing slowing you down, there's a clear path forward. Here's the thing about gaps: YouTube's algorithm rewards consistency because it shows you're committed. But more importantly - if you take weeks off, you lose momentum and it's harder to get back into it. Momentum on YouTube is an under-rated strategy. That said, posting every 2 weeks with a really good video is better than burning out trying to post weekly. I'd recommend finding a good video editor - even at $100-200/video. I know that sounds like a lot when you're just starting, but here's the math: If editing takes you 8 hours and you make $25/hour at your job, that's $200 of your time anyway. Plus, a good editor can help you make longer, better videos that actually get views. This is exactly what I did and we've been able to put out 100+ videos in a few months. The ROI is insane once you find the right person. By the way - what niche are you in? And what made your first video hit 900 views? That's actually a solid start. - Marvens
I never thought about outsourcing the editing for that much, id have to really think on it and see if I land this promotion im going for lol. Also I just made a video talking about a controversial figure in hip hop, so I guess that would be my niche. Also about the every 2 weeks thing is interesting, I thought I'd have to post every week for YT to pickup on that "consistency", I think I'll give that 2 week thing a try. Oh and one last thing, the part I enjoy about YouTube most is just going off script and talking about the first thing that comes to mind, maybe more suited for streaming but I enjoy doing it for YouTube idk lol
1. I stopped making Youtube videos on my main channel (https://www.youtube.com/@yottombottom) about 4 months ago, the longest ive ever stepped away from my channel. Prior to this, I spent nearly 4 years uploading a video at least every 2 weeks. (500+ vids) I have accumulated over 10k subscribers but ive never had that ''one'' popular video. Most of those subscribers came from shorts. it has been a slow process. On average, my views are 50-200 views which has been the case for a long time. 2. I never broke out of the shell, I was never monetized, my viewer count stayed low, I was banking that overtime one of those videos would blow up. but it never happened. I'd say I am an above average video editor and prettygood at thumbnails. and I have a good humor. So What is it? my thumbnails? my titles? me? I spent time and money in this. Each video I've ever done my mindset was always "THIS IS THE ONE" for years. and that one never came. Hours and Hours of just me, sitting at my low-end laptop editing. and dont get me wrong I loved the process, I love editing/Being a youtuber. But seeing no PROGRESS. that slowly ate at me until nothing was left. I'm now the big old 18 and a upcoming Video editor on Upwork. as of that, I am satisfied. I do plan on picking my channel back up one day, I am just prioritizing what matters now, I can't just sit at my computer for hours with no progress, hoping for Youtube to give me a chance like I used to, I need some type of income. I'll come back when i have some money, passion and knowledge of this algorithm, and perhaps a different genre. I'll try hiring a professional to guide me But at times i sit and wonder what exactly i did wrong with it.
What's up Yottom. I understand exactly where you've been. When I was creating League of Legends videos, I never blew up despite having great content and thumbnails. I was doing the same thing you did - hoping one would hit. But here's what I learned: YouTube doesn't reward hope. It rewards strategy. I just took a look at your YouTube channel and I'll tell you right now - you have the exact ethic and drive to succeed on YouTube. With that being said, I can see exactly why you haven't broken through yet, and the good news is it's fixable. Your video lengths are too short for gaming, your topic selection is weak, and some of your thumbnails have your face in it but no webcam - this confuses the viewer to click on a video with a face and there is no face when they watch. When you make videos, ask yourself this: If my video pops up next to iBerleezy's, which one will they click on? Which one will they watch longer and why? This isn't to discourage you but to instead help you find your edge. These are the metrics YouTube is thinking about when recommending channels. Take a look at this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fMkyL1q0eU A few weeks ago they had less subscribers than you, but they had an extremely unique idea that no one else had done that also was desirable to the viewer. There is a limited amount of attention on YouTube and you're competing with everyone. When your thumbnail pops up on their home page they also have many other options such as Mr. Beast Gaming and CaseOh. Here's your homework: Find 5 gaming channels with 10k-50k subs that are growing fast. Watch their last 10 videos. Ask yourself: - What topics are they covering that I'm not? - How long are their videos? - What's their hook in the first 30 seconds? Then when you post a video that bangs, you double down on that format. P.S. - I'm putting together a framework that helps creators like you identify the exact niche and video format that will work for your channel. It's the same process I used to go from $400/month to $2,000/month in one pivot. I'll send it your way when it's ready.
CASE STUDY
Here's that case study Malcolm: https://youtu.be/TyrOeVyBrJY Are you currently interested or doing YouTube?
So I'm running a yt channel and posted 90+ videos only 1 got 10 million views but all other were 30k only - i dont know how to move out this bracket.
That's alot of views, are these shorts?
CASE STUDY
Here you go Zechsi: https://youtu.be/TyrOeVyBrJY Are you currently doing YouTube or interested?
I've been making videos for 4 years with little to no success. I ran into you through Trick2g and loved your style. When I started taking content seriously, I downloaded your MoGRT and tried and tried for around a year. Writing notes on how to get better, the formula on Getting Views x Keeping Views. Watching other content creators. I always felt like my rank was what stopped me so I then quit to try to get to Master's. Then felt like no, that was a big excuse so returned to editing.. This is my channel. https://www.youtube.com/@BlueFireDudester Currently I have gotten inspiration from the OW youtuber frogger. I think League and OW are dead games but if a content creator of a game I don't even like captivated me, maybe there is something special there. I am hit or miss but I want to be consistent. My mentality is that YT is a formula. Getting Views x Keeping Views Getting Views - Get a lot of reasons to click and get strong ones Keeping Views - Fight off the reasons why people would click off (No Movement, Predictability, Confusion, Straying from the purpose) I constantly study and even during my hiatus I tried to figure out the formula.. I need your help Jiggy. Your videos helped me back when you edited for Trick. I was in such a dark place in my life then and I thank you for giving me something to look forward to. This is my dream.
Yo what's up man, it's a blast from the past to even hear the name Trick2G. First off - thank you for sharing that. I know how much courage it takes to open up about being in a dark place. I'm genuinely glad my videos gave you something to look forward to back then. Now here's what's wild: What if I told you I was in the same exact scenario? And I mean THE EXACT SAME SCENARIO. I was streaming League of Legends then posting the absolute best League of Legends videos I possibly could - but instead of Brand, I played Yorick. I posted constantly thinking if I gave it my all, I would succeed... But I didn't get far. I loved Frogger actually lmao (Anivia is the champion that got me to Diamond for the first time). People loved my content but I wasn't getting nearly the amount of views I wanted. So I did the exact same thing you did: I streamed every single day - a journey to Masters series for 40 days straight, 3-6 hours a day. I VOD reviewed, got to Diamond 3... Then I decided to quit. I figured it wasn't worth giving my life for a video game if I just couldn't get "there". Here's what I learned: I was doomed from the start. Not because I wasn't good enough. Not because my editing wasn't fire. But because I picked the wrong vehicle. If you want to see your potential on YouTube, the best way is to see how your competitors are doing. Even the number 1 Yorick wasn't getting the views I would want. After spending 3 months analyzing this, I've come to the conclusion: If you look at the top League of Legends creators, they're either making the best content on the platform through raw entertainment and strategy, or through high-level gameplay (Challenger+). You have to see what the other competitors are doing in order to gauge what's working well on YouTube. I just looked at your channel. Here's what I see: You have the editing skills. You have the drive. You have the formula (Getting Views x Keeping Views is solid). But you're fighting an uphill battle in a saturated niche where the top players are either Challenger-level or have massive production teams. Here's my honest take: You have two paths. Path 1: Stay in League/OW and find a micro-angle that's underserved. (This is hard but possible) Path 2: Take your editing skills and formula to a different gaming niche where the competition is weaker and the demand is higher. I went Path 2. I pivoted from League content to faceless YouTube in a completely different niche. First month with a partner: $2,000. The skills transferred. The vehicle changed everything. You said "This is my dream." I believe you. But dreams need the right vehicle. I'm putting together a framework that helps creators like you identify profitable niches and generate endless video ideas - the exact system I used to pivot from struggling League creator to profitable YouTube strategist. Want me to send it your way when it's ready? I think it could help you find the right vehicle for your skills. You've got the work ethic. You've got the skills. You just need the right direction. Let me know what you think. - Marvens (Jiggy) P.S. - The fact that you kept going for 4 years shows you have what it takes. Most people quit after 6 months. You're closer than you think - you just need to redirect that energy into the right niche.
With your advice and some others, I think I'm going to let being a league youtuber go. I thought I could surpass other content creators if I tried hard enough but League and Gaming Montage channels are dead. As you said to other creators, you are competing with all of YouTube. We are competing with Mr. Beast. I just watched a YT Video and someone said that Gaming Montage channels are dead. As editors and content is evolving, story based content seems to be what keeps people entertained. Do you feel that is correct? It's crazy we have blazed the same path. Yorick is dope but I hate Anivia so much.. You are absolutely right about how the top creators are doing but it seems like even most of the challengers/high elo players aren't doing well either. I think the reason why people don't want to watch League is because MOBA's inherently have no story to create. The successful creators that I have seen are the ones that have great ideas/stories. For some reason there are only 3 outliers, Tyler1, theBausffs, RatIRL. "This build is broken!!1!" "DoubleLift meets Rank 1 Leblanc!" The outliers can get away with that.. I did my homework as you said to Jiggy! "Climbing to Master with every character, if I lose I never use them again" "If I lose, I cosplay this character" "Interviewing League Players and Guessing their main" These are the types of videos/ideas that are successful in the League space. Games like Minecraft, Rust, DayZ allows for players to be free enough to create their own challenges, stories, etc. I'm going to find another niche and create actual structured content. I feel like League gets really repetitive for the viewer. Do you believe the same or is there a different reason you found success elsewhere? Thank you for believing in me, I believe in you too. Send me what you have cooking when it is ready my man. :P
Case study
Here's that case study Drola: https://youtu.be/TyrOeVyBrJY Are you currently interested in YouTube or doing it currently?